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Dr. Tallis Barker | Extended Water Fasting Specialist | Registered Nutritional Therapist | Associate Naturopath

14, 21, 30 & 40 Day Water Fasts: Healing, Benefits, Risks

14, 21, 28-30 and 40 day water fast

ARTICLE CONTENTS:

  • Introduction
  • Physical, emotional, spiritual healing
  • Benefits and risks of extended water fasts
    • 14 days
    • 21 days
    • 28-30 days
    • 40 days
  • Preparation before and refeeding after a 14, 21, 30 or 40-day fast

Why in the world would anyone want to fast for weeks and weeks?
It’s a perfectly reasonable question. And after more than a decade of working closely with over 1,000 clients through water fasts and the subsequent refeeding process, I can tell you that there’s no simple answer. For some people, extended fasting is primarily a spiritual journey. For others, it’s an attempt to address longstanding health problems after years of struggling to find an effective solution. And for many, the physical, emotional and spiritual motivations are inseparable.

Over the years, I’ve witnessed some remarkable changes in clients undertaking extended water fasts, including people who have reported substantial improvements in chronic symptoms — and sometimes their complete resolution. I’ve also sometimes seen disappointing results, unexpected complications and situations in which continuing a fast would have been entirely inappropriate.

What I want to make clear from the outset is that a longer fast is not necessarily a better fast. Nor is it necessarily a more effective one.

Nevertheless, I believe that extended water fasting deserves serious attention. Beyond the fact that the metabolic changes which accompany the prolonged deprivation of food are fascinating in their own right, the outcomes I’ve encountered in my own practice remain difficult to explain fully through the scientific research currently available.

So what actually happens during a 14, 21, 30 or even 40-day water fast? How might the experience differ from shorter fasts? What are the potential benefits, and where do the risks begin to outweigh them? These are the questions I’d like to explore in this article.

I’d like to begin by stressing two essential points:

  • First, very little scientific research has been conducted on water fasts lasting several weeks, particularly beyond 20 days. Much of what follows is therefore based on my own professional observations. These observations may be valuable, but they should not be confused with the findings of controlled clinical trials.
  • Second, prolonged water fasting can be dangerous and, in extreme circumstances, life-threatening. Medical assessment and appropriate supervision are essential considerations, especially for people with chronic illness or those taking prescription medication. In some situations, an extended fast should not be attempted at all.

This article is therefore intended to provide information the subject, not to provide a protocol for undertaking an extended fast independently.

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Physical, emotional, spiritual healing:

The first thing I’d like to say is that — like it or not — a 14, 21, 30 or 40-day fast is potentially much more than just a physical experience. It can and, I believe, should touch you on deeper levels of being too.

Nowadays, most public discussion of fasting revolves around weight loss, ketosis, insulin, autophagy and other physiological processes. These are all valid subjects, and they certainly deserve attention. But historically, fasting also occupied an important place in spiritual life.

In my experience, it is pointless — and often unproductive — to try to fully disentangle the physical aspects of ourselves from the emotional, psychological or spiritual elements. I personally believe that these different levels of being are deeply intertwined. This isn’t simply an abstract philosophical position: it’s something I encounter time and again when working closely with people through extended fasts.

For some clients, fasting becomes an unexpectedly profound emotional experience. Old fears may emerge. Questions about identity, relationships and the direction of one’s life can suddenly become impossible to ignore. Long-buried feelings sometimes rise to the surface, particularly when the familiar distractions and comforts of everyday life are temporarily removed.

I often describe this as a kind of emotional detox. This doesn’t necessarily mean that emotions are biochemical toxins which need to be expelled from the body. Rather, fasting can facilitate a perspective in which people encounter aspects of themselves that they’ve been avoiding for years.

Some experience what they describe as a release of trauma. Others speak of an extraordinary quietness, or a sense of inner calm. One client once told me that, after a profoundly intense period during his fast, he felt he could literally take a deep breath for the first time in years.

Of course, none of this means that emotional surrender can cure physical illness, or that people who don’t improve simply haven’t opened themselves sufficiently to the process. Illness and health are far more complex than that. Nevertheless, I would argue that reducing extended fasting to a purely metabolic intervention risks overlooking a significant part of the human experience.

Benefits and risks of extended water fasts:

When considering a fast of 14, 21, 30 or 40 days, it is important to understand why you’re aiming for the given length of fast. Some people assume that if a 7-day fast is beneficial, a 21-day fast must be three times better. Unfortunately, physiology isn’t that reductive! Longer fasts mean you do spend more time in a distinctive metabolic state, but also more time exposed to nutritional depletion, changes in fluid and electrolyte balance, the psychological demands of food deprivation and other challenges.

The balance between potential benefits and risks varies enormously between individuals.

Over the years, I’ve received numerous emergency phone calls from people who began fasting alone, followed an inappropriate protocol or continued despite developing serious problems – with some of them ending up in the ER as a result. These unfortunate incidents have reinforced my conviction that undertaking an extended fast should never be treated casually.

When considering the suitability of an extended fast, I find that several important factors come into play:

  • The overall health picture. Someone may approach me because of one particular condition — perhaps longstanding digestive problems, chronic fatigue or Long Covid. However, a deeper look at their medical history often reveals other difficulties, medications or nutritional considerations which burden their health, and which must also be taken into consideration.
  • Physiological vulnerability. Age, body composition, nutritional status, existing illness, kidney and cardiovascular health and medication use can all influence risk. The immune system lacks any single measurable ‘strength’, and feeling generally fit is not a reliable substitute for a deeper health assessment.
  • Previous experience. People who have fasted before may be more familiar with some of the sensations and psychological demands involved. However, familiarity does not necessarily protect them from complications on later fasts, and previous success doesn’t guarantee future safety.
  • The ability to rest and recover. Extended fasts place substantial demands on the body. Continuing a physically or emotionally exhausting lifestyle throughout such a fast can add further stress – and in some cases can be dangerous.

With all these issues in mind, let’s take a look at some individual fasting durations (continued below):

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In my article on 7–10 day water fasts, I describe the first week as something of a ‘spring clean’. During the first several days, the body undergoes significant adaptations to food deprivation, including depletion of glycogen stores, increased mobilisation of fat, and greater reliance on fatty acids and ketone bodies for energy. Many of these adaptations become firmly established by the end of the first week of fasting.

Going into the second week of fasting, the experience may begin to change. Some clients report that the initial headaches, nausea or general discomfort which may have presented during the first week diminish, while fasting symptoms more associated with their specific longstanding health conditions become more noticeable. Others experience a completely different progression.

Among the people who approach me for 14-day fasts are those living with digestive conditions such as IBS, inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), ulcerative colitis and suspected disturbances of gut permeability (‘leaky gut’), as well as people with eczema or psoriasis.

I have worked with clients who report encouraging improvements in some of these symptoms, although of course this is not a universal response. (Nor does the fact that an improved symptom establish that the underlying disease has been cured.) It is also important to understand that not every fasting symptom automatically constitutes a stage of the healing process. Headaches, nausea, weakness and dizziness can have several possible explanations – including potentially serious complications.

Potential risks of a 14-day fast:

The assessment of possible nutritional deficiency prior to the fast should be a significant consideration before undertaking any extended fast. In the modern world, this often means more than simply a lack of sufficient food. In my experience, it can also mean (1) an unhealthy diet high in processed foods which lacks full nutrition, (2) any diet which is overly restrictive in the food groups it involves, or (3) nutritional insufficiency caused by longstanding absorption and gut issues (eg SIBO). Any of these issues can lead to problems involving hydration, blood pressure, blood sugar and electrolytes both during as well as after the fast.

For any fast of 14 days or longer the refeeding period also deserves particular attention. Not only does this help to ensure digestive comfort. It also minimises the possibility of refeeding syndrome: a condition which involves potentially dangerous changes in electrolytes and fluid balance. This is especially important for those with already compromised nutritional health, and who are thus more vulnerable to the development of refeeding syndrome in the first place.

For all these reasons, a 14-day fast should never be regarded as an uncomplicated extension of a shorter fast.

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The shift from 14 to 21 days may not sound particularly dramatic — after all, it’s just an additional week. But for many of my clients, that extra week feels disproportionately hard. Psychologically, three weeks can begin to feel much closer to a month than to a ‘mere’ two weeks. And physically, the cumulative demands of fasting become increasingly important.

I have worked with clients considering 21-day fasts who have presented with a wide range of longstanding health concerns, including:

  • Metabolic and hormonal conditions such as high blood pressure, metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes (T2D), thyroid disorders, PCOS and other gynaecological problems.
  • Inflammatory and autoimmune conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis (RA), asthma, allergies and other chronic inflammatory symptoms.
  • Complex longstanding conditions such as chronic fatigue (CFS/ME), Long Covid, Lyme disease and other persistent health complaints.

Of course, this is not a list of illnesses that a 21-day fast has been proven to treat, and no scientific evidence suggests that 21 days represents a universal therapeutic threshold. It is simply a description of some of the people who have sought my guidance. In short, I’ve worked with numerous clients who report meaningful improvements in their particular symptoms, alongside others who have experienced more disappointing results or whose medical circumstances made continued fasting unsuitable.

Potential risks of a 21-day fast:

Three areas have stood out in my own practice:

  • Electrolyte disturbances:
    Electrolyte imbalance is one of the most important medical concerns during any extended fast. Sodium and potassium disturbances, in particular, can have serious consequences, including cardiac and neurological complications. In my own work, I have encountered comparatively few apparent electrolyte problems during shorter fasts, but they can and do arise during longer ones – and knowing how to intervene is crucial in order to maximise safety and comfort. Certain health concerns also increase the likelihood of electrolyte imbalance developing in the first place. In some cases, this may mean it is best to curtail the length of a fast or even avoid extended fasting altogether.
  • Hormonal changes:
    The endocrine system responds to prolonged energy deprivation, and these responses can differ substantially between individuals. Changes in thyroid function, stress hormones (adrenal function), reproductive hormone signalling and other endocrine pathways are among the recognised physiological adaptations to fasting. This may explain why some clients report a change in their hormonal blood panels before and after an extended fast.

    Clinically, I’ve also observed changes in menstrual patterns among numerous women following an extended fast. Some women report long-term improvements in cycle regularity over the subsequent months, especially when they have been able to rest adequately during their fast. Others experience disruption, especially in the immediate aftermath of a fast, and especially when they have unduly exerted themselves during their fast.

    In this sense, it is extremely important to consider the impact of rest versus stress on the endocrine system during an extended fast. For just as I believe a hormonal ‘recalibration’ may be possible, so a hormonal ‘dysregulation’ may also result.
  • Psychological challenges:
    The psychological dimension of extended fasting has already been mentioned, but by three weeks the experience can become particularly demanding. For some people, this is where the emotional journey becomes more intense, and it can become tempting to push through the challenges at whatever price. However, there is a difference between finding something challenging and finding it psychologically overwhelming. It is hugely important to understand and respect that distinction!

Continued below:

Some clients report improvements in longstanding symptoms, and limited research has documented certain physiological changes during extended fasting. However, evidence for treating particular chronic diseases remains insufficient, especially for fasts lasting several weeks. Individual outcomes cannot establish general treatment effectiveness.

Potentially yes — especially if carried out without guidance. Extended fasts can deplete nutrient reserves, fat, amino acids or electrolytes if pushed too far.

There’s no universal answer. Electrolyte requirements and risks depend on individual factors including health status, medications, fluid balance and laboratory findings. Deficiencies can be dangerous, but inappropriate supplementation can also cause harm. Decisions should be made with suitable expert oversight.

Very slowly and intentionally, starting with light plant-based foods. The longer the fast, the longer the refeeding process should take. An individual clinical plan is more important than following a fixed number of days from a generic template.

28 or 30 days is essentially a whole month, and this constitutes an exceptionally long period without food! Over the years, some of my clients have felt that the additional time helped consolidate improvements. That is their experience, and I believe it needs to be heard. However, it is equally important to add that no robust scientific evidence affirms that physiological benefits become permanently ‘locked in’ after a particular number of fasting days.

Among the people who approach me for 28-30 day fasts are those living with hormonal imbalance/dysregulation, autoimmune and inflammatory issues, Long Covid, peripheral nervous system (PNS) issues such as peripheral neuropathy, and complex digestive issues including SIBO.

Peer-reviewed articles

Long Covid and SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth) have been areas of particular interest in my work, and in 2025 I published two peer-reviewed case reports covering 28-day fasts.

One article documents the resolution of SIBO in a client who underwent a 28-day extended fasting protocol. Entitled ‘The full healing of SIBO (gut dysbiosis) achieved through an extended water fast: a case report’, this paper appeared in the Journal of Preventive Medicine and Holistic Health.[1]

The other article documents the first recorded case of a full resolution of Long Covid in another client who underwent a 28-day extended fasting protocol. Entitled ‘A Full and Permanent Resolution of Long COVID Symptoms achieved through an Extended Hybrid Water Fast: a Case Report’, this paper appeared in the Journal of Traditional Medicine & Clinical Naturopathy.[2]

In both cases, the important takeaway is not that extended fasting universally cures SIBO or Long Covid, but rather that a specific 28-day fast yielded an individual outcome which deserves further investigation. (In this sense, a case report does not carry the same weight as a clinical trial.)

Potential risks of a 28–30 day fast:

Above and beyond the issues already covered in the section on 21-day fasts, the following concerns become especially prominent:

  • Chronic nausea:
    I have observed chronic nausea to be one of the most difficult problems that can arise during very long fasts. Approximately one third of the clients I’ve accompanied through 28–30-day fasts have encountered significant nausea, although this is an estimate from my own practice, not a published incidence rate. When left untreated, the symptoms may intensify over several days, becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate. In such cases, even when blood tests come back normal, this does not necessarily establish that persistent nausea is harmless. Severe or worsening symptoms do require appropriate medical assessment, and it may be unsafe to continue the fast.
  • Electrolyte and fluid imbalance:
    The longer a fast continues, the greater the concern regarding potential disturbances to fluid and electrolyte regulation. Hot weather, vomiting, excessive water intake, underlying illness, medication and the use of enemas can all complicate the picture. These problems cannot always reliably be diagnosed through symptoms alone, and this makes the availability of clinical monitoring increasingly important.
  • Low energy levels:
    In my experience, many clients feel a substantial reduction in energy during the final week of a month-long fast. This matters not only physically but also because of the psychological implications. What initially felt like a manageable undertaking can begin to feel interminable – which, in turn, can can become a considerable source of stress. Beyond a certain point, this can then have a negative impact on the ability to control cravings during refeeding.

For millennia, 40-day fasts have occupied a special place. The great spiritual figures of the past didn’t choose to fast for 21 days. Or 30 days. No. It was always 40 days. Why? We may never know the answer. In asking potential clients to more fully consider the weight of a 40-day fast, I sometimes tell them that it is designed to break you. Buddha’s 40-day fast broke him. Jesus was taken to his own limits…

I do think this is an important consideration – and one which unfortunately some fasting retreat centres and water fasting experts largely ignore. I’ve certainly seen some of my own clients taken to their limits, both physically and psychologically. In my view, awareness of this issue is essential and not something to take lightly, because underestimating the intensity of the journey can have serious consequences. Because going to the limit is not for everyone.

Who considers a 40-day fast?

Some of the people who have approached me about exceptionally long fasts have been living with extremely serious illnesses, including cancer and central nervous system (CNS) conditions such as multiple sclerosis. These also frequently constitute the health concerns where the greatest caution is required. For the sake of clarity, it is also important to add that extended water fasting is not an established treatment for cancer, multiple sclerosis or other serious diseases.

Some potential clients hoping to do a 40-day fast are desperate for improvement, and it is precisely that desperation which drives them towards such an extreme intervention in the first place. Often, though, desperation can make fasting especially dangerous in terms of nutritional vulnerability, medication, ongoing treatment and the possibility of further physical deterioration. Although in some cases a 40-day fast may indeed make sense, I have equally had to advise potential clients against the extended fast they originally hoped to undertake, instead helping them to devise a protocol which exerted less of a potential burden on their health.

Potential risks of a 40-day fast:

Above and beyond the issues already covered in the section on 28-30-day fasts, the following concerns become especially prominent:

  • An apparent law of diminishing returns:
    For certain health issues (eg digestive concerns), I have observed that 40-day fasts don’t necessarily offer a significant advantage over changes experienced earlier. Beyond a certain point, the additional risks may actually increase considerably while the hoped-for advantages remain uncertain.
  • Chronic nausea:
    Over the years, approximately half of the clients I’ve accompanied through 40-day fasts have reported problems with chronic nausea. Of course, this estimate is based on my own professional practice rather than a finding from a formal research study. Without expert knowledge regarding appropriate treatment of the individual case, the severity of nausea also tends to be considerably worse than on shorter fasts.
  • Electrolyte depletion:
    By definition, the longer the fast, the greater the risk of electrolyte disturbances, and it is one important reason that I choose not to coach fasts longer than 40 days. Of course, this is not to infer that fasts up to 40 days are inherently safe. Rather, any extended fast should be established on an individual, case by case basis.
  • Psychological challenges:
    Instead of making a broad generalisation here, I’d like to share a specific experience that has stayed with me for several reasons:

    A few years ago, I worked with a woman who was living with triple-negative breast cancer. In her particular case, she reported that her tumour had become visibly smaller by the end of a 40-day fast, with an estimated reduction of approximately 50% in volume. I do realise how remarkable that sounds. Clearly, this does not prove that fasting treats cancer, just as an extended fast cannot substitute for oncology treatment. And clearly, an individual observation cannot establish that fasting was responsible for a reduction in tumour size. However, just because it may be difficult to interpret, I don’t believe that an observation like this should automatically be excluded from discussion.

    Rather, the point here is the impact this outcome had on my client. Following her first fast, she originally planned to undertake a second extended fast approximately six months later, hoping to build on what she believed had been a positive experience. When the time came, however, she simply couldn’t summon the psychological strength to face another extended fast.

    This was striking. Whatever interpretation one places on the physical changes reported in her case, the experience had clearly demanded a great deal from her emotionally and psychologically. To use a couple of my own terms introduced earlier in this article, she had experienced a lot of unexpected ‘emotional detox’ during her fast, and ultimately the extreme length of it had ‘broken’ her – or at least ‘burnt her out’ – in the sense that, contrary to her original plan, she felt should could not undertake a second fast.

    This risk of emotional and psychological burn-out is especially important when someone is already coping with a serious illness.

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Preparation before and refeeding after a 14, 21, 30 or 40-day fast:

The basic concepts of preparation before and refeeding after an extended water fast are covered in my article on 7-10 day fasts. These basic concepts and principles remain the same on longer fasts as well. The main difference with 14, 21, 30 and 40-day fasts is generally a more extended refeeding period, often in direct correlation with the length of a fast. In addition, it also involves understanding the individual’s medical history, medication use, nutritional status and the potential risks involved.

When coaching one-on-one, I encourage and help my clients to tune into the daily physical messaging from the body about what and how much to eat — rather than following any abstract, pre-planned, one-size-fits-all template which might have nothing to do with their actual and very individual digestive needs. Someone with a healthy gut, for instance, may recover at a completely different rate from someone who has suffered from chronic constipation beforehand.

In this sense, I often use the phrase ‘listen to your body’. However, this is an ideal to aim for, not something to follow blindly — because, without due caution, it is easy to believe you’re listening to your body when in fact you’re following the siren call of cravings or subconscious desires instead. In order to prevent potential binge-eating after a fast, therefore, it can also help to follow a careful, individualised nutritional plan after a fast.

Even more important, however: the sheer length of a 14, 21, 28-30 or 40-day fasts involves a potential risk of refeeding syndrome, especially for those who are nutritionally vulnerable. Refeeding after such long fast therefore also requires an appropriate clinical plan, rather than relying on intuition or appetite alone. In order to mitigate the possibility of refeeding syndrome, my own refeeding protocol follows guidance from the UK’s National Institute of Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE).[3] My pdf on refeeding (available in the webshop) also follows these guidelines.

How to break a water fast?

If you return too quickly to a normal diet, you risk encountering both digestive problems as well as ‘refeeding syndrome’. This is a potentially fatal complication caused by the change from ketosis back to your everyday metabolism. If you have any doubts, I offer a downloadable 86-page PDF which covers refeeding for any length of fast.

Please feel free to share your thoughts or questions in comments section below!

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[1] Barker T. The full healing of SIBO (gut dysbiosis) achieved through an extended water fast: A case report [Internet]. J Prev Med Holist Health. 2025 [cited 2026 Oct 22];11(2):99-101. Available from: https://doi.org/10.18231/j.jpmhh.14256.1764132626

[2] Barker T (2025) A Full and Permanent Resolution of Long COVID Symptoms achieved through an Extended Hybrid Water Fast: a Case Report. J Tradit Med Clin Natur, 14: 525. DOI: 10.4172/2573-4555.1000525

[3] https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg32/resources/nutrition-support-for-adults-oral-nutrition-support-enteral-tube-feeding-and-parenteral-nutrition-pdf-975383198917

Further references:

Ezpeleta M, Cienfuegos S, Lin S, et al. Efficacy and safety of prolonged water fasting: a narrative review of human trials. Nutrition Reviews. 2024;82(5):664–675. https://doi.org/10.1093/nutrit/nuad081

Gustafson C. Alan Goldhamer, DC: Water Fasting — The Clinical Effectiveness of Rebooting Your Body. Integrative Medicine. 2014;13(3):52–57. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4684131/

Cancer Research UK. Alternative cancer diets. https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/treatment/complementary-alternative-therapies/alternative-cancer-diets


About the author: Dr Tallis Barker, D.Phil., NT.Dip., Nat.Dip., is a naturopathic water fasting consultant and nutritional therapist who has worked with over 1,000 clients internationally. His work includes individual fasting consultations, nutritional therapy and published case reports. His D.Phil. is an academic doctorate, not a medical qualification.

Medical information: This article is educational and does not constitute individual medical advice. Extended water fasting involves potentially serious health risks and is not a substitute for appropriate medical treatment.

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356 responses to “14, 21, 30 & 40 Day Water Fasts: Healing, Benefits, Risks”

  1. Hi Tallis, thank you for this article. I had been fasting for 14 days when I got my blood work with high uric acid marks just above the allowed limit. I stopped the fasting slowly the next day. I barely eat any red meat , but I devour seafood, fish and canned sardines.
    Would you advise me to try waterfasting again or just work on my diet for the time being?
    Thanks.
    Jeanne

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      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Jeanne-Christele,

      Thanks for your question. Meat and fish can certainly increase uric acid, but for me the issue here is the context. What is ‘normal’ for blood work while fasting is often different from and can’t be fully compared to that in everyday life. Uric acid levels, for instance, do easily increase due to the cleansing. So if your uric acid levels were only just outside the reference range, then it may not really have been a problem at all. However, the devil is in the detail, so I don’t want to make any blanket statements here without having spoken to you in depth first.

      It would be interesting to know what level the uric acid was at before the fast, because this, in essence, would give insight into your question. If they were high to begin with, then it would make sense to work on your diet, whereas if it was simply a consequence of the fast, then it would be more effective to continue to practise fasting – while continuing to monitor uric acid levels during the fast as well. In either case, lowering meat/fish intake before a fast is always a good idea, as part of lightening up your preparatory diet!

      Hope this helps,
      Tallis

  2. Hello.. I would like to know your thoughts on dry fasting.

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      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Latrina,

      Thanks for your question. There’s lots about dry fasting on the website. Why don’t you start with this article:
      https://waterfasting.org/dry-fasting/

      And then try others in the category ‘dry fasting’:
      https://waterfasting.org/category/dry-fasting/

      And then check out this video/article comparing water and dry fasting:
      https://waterfasting.org/how-are-dry-fasts-and-water-fasts-different-in-terms-of-cleansing-detox-and-healing/

      Hope this helps,
      Tallis

  3. Dear Dr. Tallis,

    Thank you so much for providing this information for us water fasters online. I am currently on day 6 of 7 of a water fast and I add slats, magnesium and potassium to my water. I have completed a water-only fast last year for 5 days but was extremely fatigued and could barely sleep, hence the salts this time around. They seem to have helped mildly this time round. Furthermore, weight loss, which is not my goal, has been very drastic, loosing 6 kg in 4 days. I came into this fast with a BMI of about 23 and now stand at 19.8. Also vegan before starting the fast.

    I am fasting to attempt to improve Peyronies disease, a calcification (plaque) in the penis, which can be felt and is about the size of a small rice grain. From what I can say at this stage, there does not seem to be much improvement yet.

    Could you shed some light on whether extending this fast to 10 days + or incorporating more frequent (shorter) fast over the years would be more suitable?

    I highly appreciate your advice and should have booked your coaching session before fasting.

    Kind regards,

    Dan

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      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Dan,

      Thanks for writing. If the main reason for fasting is to heal from Peyronies disease, it may be much more effective to aim for a long fast. Whether this is the right time to be undertaking that fast is another question. In order to get the most out of an extended therapeutic fast, for instance, it can be beneficial to eat an alkaline-forming, largely plant-based diet for a certain period of time beforehand. (I’m not necessarily promoting a long-term vegan diet, but rather focusing just on the period leading up to the fast.) A lot also depends on how much you’ve fasted before.

      In terms of the salts, I would get off them if possible (and only if possible, see below)! For many people, salts / electrolyte supplements are one of the big fallacies of fasting. Certain well known authors promote them, though, because they do make you feel better, with higher energy levels. In short, salts are an easy and popular sell. Unfortunately, though, the truth is that such supplements interfere with fasting metabolism, causing a degree of unnecessary fluid retention (in the same way that all salts force the body to hold on to additional fluids). I frequently observe this with clients who choose to use them. Especially as someone fasting in order to address a health issue, though, you want to get the most out of your body’s full potential! However, one hugely important caveat: some people with chronic health issues do have trouble retaining their electrolytes, and in some cases it IS necessary to supplement with electrolytes in order to avoid electrolyte deficiency during the fast. This is where expert advice can help.

      One final thought: fasting tends to heal soft tissues the quicker than hard tissue. For harder tissues and issues relating to crystallisation (and calcification would fall into this category), you may well need considerably longer than 10 days to stand a real chance of addressing your symptoms. To determine whether this is actually appropriate or not for you personally would require a much more detailed conversation.

      All the best,
      Tallis

  4. Hello Tallis, As this is your area of expertise. I am hoping you can clarify the back pain I was having. My husband and I decided to do a 7 day fast. I can do a 1-2 day fast with no issues. The most I had previously done was 3 days without any unusual issues. However on day 4 of this fast I was getting pain in what felt like both of my kidneys. It didn’t feel normal so I stopped the fast. I have read online that others have also had this issue, but no one really knows what it is. Some say it may be a kidney detox, but it didn’t feel that way. Have you come across this phenomena? I would like to attempt at least a 14 day fast, if not longer, but would like to get this issue clarified before I start.

    Thanks for any insight you may provide
    Terri Garringer

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      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Terri,

      Ah yes, the mysterious ache in the lower back… I’m guessing that you feel it especially in the soft area between the top rim of the pelvis and the lowest ribs.

      I often encounter this issue with my clients, and at times have suffered from it myself when fasting (especially dry fasting). In fact, I’d say it’s one of the most common detox symptoms after the first few days of fasting. Like everyone else, I used to assume that it was the kidneys, but have since come to the conclusion that it’s actually sensitive lymph ducts and nodes.

      The first thing to do is to dig out an anatomical diagram and take a look at where the kidneys actually are. The vast majority of the kidneys’ surface area is protected by the ribs – that is, they are NOT located in the soft area between pelvis and ribcage, as many people believe. They are higher, in an area which does not correspond to where most people feel this ache.

      The second thing to do is to look at an anatomical diagram of the lymphatic system. The lymph ducts from the legs join near the top rim of the pelvis, along with a lot of lymph nodes in this area (for cleansing!!!), before moving up through the lower back. This is precisely the area where most people feel the ache during fasting. And if you actually palpate the area while suffering from the ache, you’ll realise that the source of the pain often feels like it’s coming precisely from behind the top rim of the pelvis. Voila!

      The solution, therefore, is to help flush the lymphatic system – especially since it works so hard during a fast to cleanse your whole body.

      In a smaller number of cases, people do feel their kidneys, and my theory was implicitly confirmed recently thanks to a client who suffered simultaneously from both the lymphatic ache as well as the kidney ache. He was able to distinguish between the two sensations both in terms of their location and quality of the discomfort.

      Although uncomfortable (and sometimes almost unbearably so), the lymphatic symptom is very normal. The best thing is to facilitate lymphatic cleansing before symptoms appear, rather than waiting until it’s too late. An ounce of prevention… In this respect, movement and heat tend to be the most effective modalities. The more systematic you can be, the better!

      However, that all said, if there is any possibility that you are indeed feeling your kidneys, you should go to your doctor immediately. Kidneys are vulnerable and vital, and it’s always better to err on the side of safety. In order to fully distinguish between the two symptoms (lymphatic and renal/kidney), we would need to discuss this in greater depth in a consultation – because most people cannot do so when fasting alone. Please be careful!

      Hope this helps,
      Tallis

  5. Justin Williams Avatar
    Justin Williams

    Hello and thanks for all the useful information. I thought I was a trooper for a couple of three day fasts over the past couple of years, lol…humbling to read about all of the extended fasting. I’m curious to know if discerning between “true hunger” and not true hunger is a common dilemma experienced with extended fasting. Also, I broke my thumb about two years ago. I didn’t allow it to heal properly and so at the base of the thumb there is built up tissue…or something, and seems pretty permanent. I’d like it be like it was before the break. In your opinion does extended water fasting help with dissolving the excess tissue of a broken bone that never healed properly?

    Many Thanks
    Justin

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Justin,

      Glad you found the website useful. First, you ARE a trooper to have done a couple of 3-day fasts, because this goes way beyond what most other people in the world have ever done. To answer your question: it’s not hard to distinguish between ‘true’ hunger when you’re down to 1.5-2% body fat and other types of hunger!

      Otherwise, I’ve observed that water fasting may promote healing across numerous types of tissues and body systems. Unfortunately, though, it does often work most slowly on dense, hard tissue like bone. If the specific problem isn’t the bone itself, but rather scarring or related muscle damage around the bone, then water fasting may be more effective.

      Hope this helps,
      Tallis

  6. Hello… I’m on day 5 of a fast, drinking distilled water and decaf coffee. My ketones are 8.0 mmol/L on the urinalysis scale.

    Is this too high?

    Thank you

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Veronica,

      Your ketone levels are within the normal range for Day 5 of fasting, and I’ve had numerous clients experience stable ketone levels of 8 mmol/l throughout their fast with no issues at all. Fasting metabolism is very different from that in everyday life, and this is reflected in ketone levels too. Except for diabetics, therefore, most clients rarely need to worry about their ketones being ‘too high’ when fasting.

      Just one other comment. I’d stay away from coffee when water fasting, regardless of whether or not it has caffeine. Coffee is highly acidic in the gut, and this induces a mucous response from the lining of the intestines – and all the more so when there isn’t any other food in the gut to soak it up.

      All the best,
      Tallis

  7. I had embarked on a 26 day fast two years ago and on the 7th and 8th day I started throwing up any water I drank. I was sipping it. I also started throwing up blood. So I got scared and ended the fast. Is it a normal thing to throw up blood as part of the detox? All vital signs were normal.

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Deepika,

      You shouldn’t ever throw up blood while water fasting. Something obviously started happening on the 7th and 8th days to cause you to start throwing up, but without having followed you through the fast it’s hard for me to guess why this happened. If you fast again and the same symptom recurs, you should break the fast immediately and seek medical attention to diagnose the cause.

      All the best,
      Tallis

  8. Kathleen Hiler Avatar

    I am on day 36 of a 40 day water only fast..had been having issues with nausea a lot after the first healing crisis 10 days in..still had been able to be busy cleaning cupboards etc to prepare for different way of eating when finished.. tonight the belching I have been experiencing led to a session of vomiting..a yellowish liquid..mostly watery..that irritated my throat a bit..I actually felt better after it was over. I want so much to do the 40 because of Deepest possible cleansing and healing physically and spiritually..I had started the fast..I felt from the Lord before I came across your article. There have been healing issues come up..on Good Friday morning I went to be with the Lord and I cried and cried over trauma done to my “little girl” inside.. and actually a joy that THIS TIME it was over..and being freed from a mental emotional “tormentor” Doctor..the battle has been very great..in my life and during this time..I just so need to hang in there for 4 more days..I take a thyroid pill each day..which had begun to be reduced several times already..I am thinking to stop the thyroid at least one day.. because ithink that is what I threw up..not to worry because I have been very over weight..I am 71 years old and am counting the next 4 days to the finish !

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Kathleen,

      Thanks for sharing. It sounds like, in every respect, you’re going through a very powerful journey – as 40 day fasts tend to be!
      Nausea caused by cleansing can occur at any point during a fast – even late on into a 40 day fast. However, if it becomes persistent to the point of frequent vomiting, this can also be a sign that it is time to end the fast. It’s extremely important to respect the body if this occurs!

      I can’t comment here on your specific thyroid medication, except to say that during extended fasts it certainly does often become possible to reduce dosage if not completely eliminate it. (You should always discuss this with your doctor first.)

      Wishing you all the best for the remainder of your fast!
      Tallis

      1. Kathleen Hiler Avatar

        I am asking if drinking herbal tea to quiet nausea would help..or is that breaking the water only fast..I sip water only when the nausea hits me and I threw up again yesterday afternoon and 12 hours later this morning..I got some filtered water from a sister who had a filter device..I had used the filter on my fridge..but after a few swallows of water..I use a cup with a straw in it.. I start belching the water..but I can’t help but think I have only 2 more days to go..

        1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
          Tallis Barker Ph.D.

          Hi Kathleen,

          Drinking herbal tea does won’t impact on ketosis, so in physical terms you’re not interfering with your water fast. In terms of fasting for spiritual reasons, though, there are implications. A big part of spiritual fasting involves taking away taste, because in order to discover who you really are, it’s important to eliminate external stimuli and addictions. After 38 days, though, I wouldn’t worry about this too much! It’s a very minor issue at this point, and you’ve already proved you can do this!

          All the best,
          Tallis

          1. Kathleen Hiler Avatar

            Thank you for your response Dr.Barker..i did consider the “taste”aspect for the spiritual side of this journey..which was why..I feel..I was led to embark on this water only fast in the first place..the “deepest possible cleansing and healing” but felt that it was an honest assessment to do the peppermint tea to help with the nausea..
            the “sipping” was all I could do as there was no real thirst at all by then and I only sipped to deal with the nausea..to try to stop throwing up..the tea helped..but the nausea was still there.. and the belching from sipping it..but I didn’t throw up yesterday..today is the last day..

            tomorrow I feel led to partake of tiny amounts of Idaho potatoes..soft veggies like broccoli and cauliflower. I thought the potatoes sounded right as they have all 9 of the essential amino acids potassium and phosphorus..etc etc

            I appreciate your article about this..I appreciate all of your responses to and having read your responses to others..they are so helpful to all who find their way here. I could not go back on the thyroid meds..the vomiting issue. I will just have to deal with that one at the end of the month when labs are done again.

            I believe Hashimotos.. kidney issues with adrenal insufficiency..knees ankles already mobile..right ankle was shattered 37 years ago..left knee surgery..sinusitis.. spiritual “tormentor” tried to come back this morning..Nada stopped eating meat January 28 in this journey..in favor of elk deer or wild caught kosher fish..or veggies..no restaurant oils etc etc ..
            Thank you again..

            1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
              Tallis Barker Ph.D.

              Hi again Kathleen,

              I think you say it best when you say it was an ‘honest assessment’ to include the peppermint tea.

              When it comes to refeeding, please be very careful about not including too many calories too soon – which means going very easy on the potatoes for a while. Too many calories after an extended fast can bring on refeeding syndrome, which is something you definitely don’t want want to encounter. The first symptoms are muscle cramps (typically in the hands/feet) and oedema. This can lead to nausea and ultimately death through cardiac failure, if refeeding continues unabated over too many days, while ignoring the symptoms.

              Focus on low-calorie vegetables first! If you need any guidance on refeeding, there’s a pdf on the waterfasting.org which deals with this at length:
              https://waterfasting.org/product/how-to-break-any-water-fast-and-manage-refeeding-67-page-pdf/

              All the best,
              Tallis

  9. I am a middle-aged female on day 21 of a 30 day water only fast, and one of the greatest challenges I have faced is a horrendously itchy ketosis rash all over my chest and abdomen. All the online advice I read says the only cures are oral antibiotics or eating carbs. I have tried topical antibiotics and cortisone cream with no results. I keep it hydrated with aloe vera lotion. Any other solutions I haven’t thought of? I am determined to make it to day 30, but this rash increases the difficulty exponentially!

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Dana,
      The fasting rash is problem for a lot of people, and I literally see it a lot among the participants on my fasting retreats. Personally I wouldn’t call it a keto rash because I don’t believe it has much to do with ketosis (FYI there’s no official explanation re. the cause). I believe it may instead present due to the release of toxins through the skin, which causes irritation, redness and sometimes itchiness. This would also explain why it can occur after the fast once ketosis has reduced or finished but while the body is still in the final stages of its fasting metabolism. It also explains why antibiotics and creams don’t help. Keeping it hydrated is good, but it’s also important not to block the pores with anything which might cause any toxins to become trapped in the skin.
      Hope you feel better soon,
      Tallis

  10. Brandon Stark Avatar

    Hello I just started my first 40 day fast on Sunday. When I tell people I am doing this they all say you wont have enough vitamins and you will get sick. Should someone take vitamins while water fasting/ will my body deplete of essential vitamins and minerals?

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Brandon Stark,
      There are a lot of nay-sayers out there when it comes to water fasting. Of course, it’s because the vast majority of people are afraid of giving up eating, and this can translate into fears about pretty much anything with regard to fasting. The body does conserve its resources while fasting, though, and this includes vitamins. So long as you’re generally healthy (with no metabolic problems or absorption issues) and you eat a generally healthy diet, the odds are in your favour that you’ll be fine without any supplements. Thousands if not millions of people have been equally fine over the millennia on their own 40-day fasts. However, if you have any doubt, you should consult with a nutritional therapist.
      I’m glad that like a true Stark, you’re braver than the nay-sayers!
      Best of courage and strength to you over the next 40 days.
      Spring is coming!
      Tallis

  11. you only in danger when your body fat falls below single digits, than yea stop.

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Yus,
      If your body fat were to fall too low, true hunger would return, indicating that you must break the fast. All the best,
      Tallis

  12. Refeeding first day after 18 days and urine is light brown

    1. Tallis Barker Ph.D. Avatar
      Tallis Barker Ph.D.

      Hi Gary, changes to the colour of urine may be normal, but I can’t comment in greater detail without more background information (and this isn’t really the place to get into specific individual cases). The key to a successful refeeding program is in breaking a long fast gently, following this up with a gradual increase to the spectrum and quantity of what you eat. After such a long fast you should start by eating only vegetables (and perhaps a little fruit) today!
      All the best,
      Tallis

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